Talk:Harddrive

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Need help getting data for the different SKU models and the default harddrive they are equiped with.

There is still some conflicting data to be sorted out, e.g.:

maximum size internal drive

The maximum size of the internal harddrive that the PS3 supports is 1TB (TeraBytes) 

note: this seems untrue as there are several people posting pictures of their external to internal drive mod with a size of 2TB

Personal experience

Using Normal Mode and Recovery - when trying to install a 1.5TB 3.5" drive as internal (using an eSATA cradle)
  • Using Recovery it is possible to finish the format of the harddrive until 100%. The system however fails to reboot automaticly after that and halts. When enforced to reboot, it errors out with "Wrong Harddrive".
  • When trying all the other Recovery Menu options it errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281".
  • When trying to boot to XMB it also errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281".
  • When replacing the drive for the previous tested 1TB harddrive, it boots without errors to XMB and reports : 827GB free/931GB total
Conclusion
>1TB didn't not work.
Using Factory Service Mode - when trying to install a 1.5TB 3.5" drive as internal (using an eSATA cradle) FSM
  • Second try, using Service Mode
  • first replacing drive for original 120GB 2.5" and using Factory Service Mode to downgrade to lowest firmware the system can handle (2K slim -> FW 2.70)
  • Replaced for 1.5TB 3.5" drive and do exactly the same 2.70 again
  • Boot to XMB with Service Mode still activated
    • No problems to get into XMB, but checking System Settings > System Information shows size detection issues:
System Software  Version 2.70
IP Address       xxx.xxx.x.xxx
MAX Address      xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
Free Space       30 G
  • Exit Factory Service Mode
    • Blank screen freeze when trying to boot to XMB in normal mode
  • Power off and try again gives "system software was not installed correct" error
  • inserted USB with 2.70 on normal location and START+SELECT button to let it reinstall
    • Preparing Update counts to 100% and then halts (does not reboot), just like in first trial.
  • Manual poweroff and reboot just results in blank screen with no harddrive activity
Conclusion
>1TB didn't not work in normal or recovery mode only with FSM enabled.
Going back to the 1TB and crosschecking
  • Replacing drive back to the working 1TB (has 3.55 on it) gives prompt to reinstall 2.70, doing so errors out with "Harddrive Error 0x8002F281".
  • Entering Factory Service Mode with 1TB and let it reinstall via lv2diag results fine without errors: UPDATER_LOG.TXT
  • Boot to XMB with Service Mode still activated
    • No problems to get into XMB, but checking System Settings > System Information shows size detection issues (the '30 G' seems to be FSM related):
System Software  Version 2.70
IP Address       xxx.xxx.x.xxx
MAX Address      xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
Free Space       30 G
  • Exit Factory Service Mode
  • No problems to get into XMB, and checking System Settings > System Information shows no size detection issues:
System Software  Version 2.70
IP Address       xxx.xxx.x.xxx
MAX Address      xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
Free Space       827GB / 931GB
Conclusion
<1TB works fine in all modi.

maximum size external drive

External HDD : You can format it to any size up to 8TB

note: this seems untrue, because when >2TB drives have hit the market, no screenshots of >2TB external storage are known



AES-256-CBC versus AES-256-XTS

There is conflicting mention of sources for the algo/mode used for GameOS encryption.

Fact:

  • Sony/IBM loves AES
  • 256bit based
  • sectorsize 512 bytes (4096 bits)
  • blockcipher
  • recurring patterns are seen

Reference:

Experimental Tables

A collection of productsheets/datasheets renamed and ordered by series http://www.sendspace.com/file/yi4zi6 (fujitsu series are missing)

All HDD models are 2.5" and 9.5 milimeters height max, with 1 platter, rotating at 5.400 rpm with 512 bytes per sector
Brand Series Model Capacity Rotation Speed
(Platters/Heads)		 Buffer Interface Seek Speeds Power Requirements Operating
Temp.		 Noise
Max		 Used in PS3 Models
tracks latency read write startup idle read write
Fujitsu MHW MHW2040BH 40 GB 5400rpm (1/1) 8 MB SATA-150 1.5 ms 5.56 ms 12 ms 14 ms 1.0 A 0.60 W 1.9 W 1.9 W 55 ºC 2.0 bels CECHJxx
MHZ MHZ2080BH 80 GB 5400rpm (1/1) 8 MB SATA-300 1.5 ms 5.56 ms 12 ms 14 ms 1.0 A 0.60 W 1.9 W 1.9 W 55 ºC 2.4 bels CECHKxx, CECHLxx
MHZ2160BH 160 GB 5400rpm (1/2) 8 MB SATA-300 1.5 ms ?.?? ms ?? ms ?? ms 1.0 A 0.60 W 2.1 W 2.1 W 55 ºC 2.0 bels CECHPxx, CECHQxx
Hitachi Travelstar 5K160 HTS541640J9SA00 40 GB 5400rpm (1/1) 8 MB SATA-150 2.2 ms 5.50 ms 14 ms 15 ms 1.0 A 0.85 W 1.8 W 1.8 W 55 ºC 2.7 bels CECHHxx
Travelstar 5K250 HTS542580K9SA00 80 GB 5400rpm (1/2) 8 MB SATA-150 2.2 ms 5.50 ms 14 ms 15 ms 1.0 A 0.85 W 1.8 W 1.8 W 55 ºC 2.7 bels CECHLxx
Travelstar 5K500 HTS545012B9SA00 120 GB 5400rpm (1/1) 8 MB SATA-150 2.2 ms 5.50 ms 14 ms 15 ms 0.9 A 0.80 W 1.4 W 1.4 W 55 ºC 2.9 bels CECH-20xxA
Travelstar Z5K500 HTS545050A7E380 500 GB 5400rpm (1/2) 8 MB SATA-300 2.2 ms 5.50 ms 13 ms 13 ms 0.9 A 0.55 W 1.6 W 1.6 W 60 ºC 2.1 bels CECH-40xxC
Seagate Momentus 5400.2 ST96812AS 60 GB 5400rpm (1/2) 8 MB SATA-150 1.5 ms 5.56 ms 12 ms 14 ms 1.1 A 0.99 W 1.9 W 2.3 W 55 ºC 3.1 bels CECHAxx, CECHCxx
Momentus 5400.3 ST980811AS 80 GB 5400rpm (1/2) 8 MB SATA-150 1.5 ms 5.56 ms 11 ms 13 ms 1.0 A 0.75 W 1.9 W 1.8 W 60 ºC 3.2 bels CECHExx
LD25 SATA ST920217AS 20 GB 5400rpm (1/1) 2 MB SATA-150 2.0 ms 5.60 ms 16 ms 16 ms 1.0 A ?.?? W 2.3 W 2.3 W 55 ºC 2.7 bels CECHBxx
ST9402115AS 40 GB 5400rpm (1/2) 2 MB SATA-150 2.0 ms 5.60 ms 16 ms 16 ms 1.0 A 2.00 W 2.3 W 2.3 W 55 ºC 2.7 bels CECHGxx, CECHHxx
LD25 5400.2 ST940210AS 40 GB 5400rpm (1/2) 2 MB SATA-150 1.5 ms 5.60 ms 15 ms 15 ms 1.0 A 2.50 W 2.3 W 2.3 W 60 ºC 2.6 bels CECHJxx
Toshiba MKxx52GSX MK8052GSX 80 GB 5400rpm (1/1) 8 MB SATA-300 2.0 ms ?.?? ms 12 ms 12 ms 0.9 A 0.85 W 2.0 W 2.0 W 55 ºC 25 dBA CECHLxx
MK1652GSX 160 GB 5400rpm (1/2) 8 MB SATA-300 2.0 ms ?.?? ms 12 ms 12 ms 0.9 A 0.85 W 2.0 W 2.0 W 55 ºC 25 dBA CECHPxx
MKxx55GSX MK1255GSX 120 GB 5400rpm (1/1) 8 MB SATA-300 2.0 ms 5.55 ms 12 ms 12 ms 0.9 A 0.85 W 1.4 W 1.4 W 55 ºC 2.0 bels CECH-20xxA
MK2555GSX 250 GB 5400rpm (1/2) 8 MB SATA-300 2.0 ms 5.55 ms 12 ms 12 ms 0.9 A 0.85 W 1.4 W 1.4 W 55 ºC 2.0 bels CECH-20xxB
MKxx65GSX MK1665GSX 160 GB 5400rpm (1/1) 8 MB SATA-300 2.0 ms ?.?? ms 12 ms 12 ms 0.9 A 0.75 W 1.5 W 1.5 W 55 ºC 20 dBA CECH-25xxA
MK3265GSX 320 GB 5400rpm (1/2) 8 MB SATA-300 2.0 ms ?.?? ms 12 ms 12 ms 0.9 A 0.75 W 1.5 W 1.5 W 55 ºC 20 dBA CECH-25xxB
MKxx76GSX MK1676GSX 160 GB 5400rpm (1/1) 8 MB SATA-300 2.0 ms 5.55 ms 12 ms 12 ms 0.9 A 0.55 W 1.5 W 1.5 W 55 ºC 20 dBA CECH-30xxA
MK3276GSX 320 GB 5400rpm (1/2) 8 MB SATA-300 2.0 ms 5.55 ms 12 ms 12 ms 0.9 A 0.55 W 1.5 W 1.5 W 55 ºC 20 dBA CECH-30xxB
  • Meassuring units notes
    • Watts = Amps * volts (or... Amps = Watts / Volts)
    • There is no conversion formula between "bels" (sound power) and "dBA" (sound pressure)... are different meassure concepts and cant be compared


Speed Tests (PC)
Brand Series Model Windows Linux
[HDtune] [HDtach] [ATTO] [PassMark] [hdparm -Tt]
Min.
(MB/s)		 Max.
(MB/s)		 Average
(MB/s)		 Access
(ms)		 Burst
(MB/s)		 Link Average
(MB/s)		 Burst
(MB/s)		 Access
(ms)		 Link Write
(MB/s)		 Read
(MB/s)		 Link Score
(rating)		 Link Cache read
(MB/s)		 Disk read
(MB/s)		 Link
Fujitsu MHW MHW2040BH 14.3 46.1 34.3 17.7 100 [1] 28.2 28.5 21.8 [1] N/A 215 [1] N/A
MHZ MHZ2080BH 13.6 61.8 46.0 18.3 72.2 ? N/A N/A 324 [1] N/A
MHZ2160BH 33.4
20.6
15.4
31.7
6.7		 68.2
26.2
63.4
63.1
63.5		 54.3
24.9
50.4
50.5
46.1		 17.2
17.9
17.4
17.3
19.3		 75.2
20.5
75.7
75.2
71.5 		[1]
[2]
[3]
[4]
[5] 		57.3 77.3 17.3 [1] 66444 64450 [1] 337 [1] N/A
Hitachi Travelstar 5K160 HTS541640J9SA00 15.2 48.7 38.8 17.1 91.3 [1] 40.5 116.3 17.1 [1] N/A 254 [1] N/A
Travelstar 5K250 HTS542580K9SA00 22.1 44.3 34.4 17.4 77.0 ? 36.0 ? 16.9 ? N/A 247 [1] N/A
Travelstar 5K500 HTS545012B9SA00 36.5 79.2 62.0 20.2 99.9 ? N/A N/A 377 [1] N/A
Travelstar Z5K500 HTS545050A7E380 45.6 103.5 80 19.9 137.7 [1] N/A N/A 646 [1] N/A
Seagate Momentus 5400.2 ST96812AS 12.9 40.2 32.2 15.8 83.4 [1] N/A N/A 235 [1] N/A
Momentus 5400.3 ST980811AS 20.9 41.8 33.1 15.9 89.4 [1] N/A N/A 236 [1] N/A
LD25 SATA ST920217AS 2.0 30.9 23,9 21.0 100.9 [1] N/A N/A 167 [1] N/A
ST9402115AS N/A N/A N/A 186 [1] N/A
LD25 5400.2 ST940210AS 21.0 30.6 27.2 18.5 22.8 ? N/A N/A 230 [1] N/A
Toshiba MKxx52GSX MK8052GSX 6.6
9.7		 61.2
27.5		 46.0
24.3		 18.1
19.1		 87.3
24.7 		[1]
[2] 		N/A N/A 323 [1] N/A
MK1652GSX 16.9
31.2
20.5		 61.8
61.8
61.8		 49.5
50.2
47.2		 18.1
18.7
18.1		 73.0
73.3
76.7 		[1]
[2]
? 		50.6 151.8 18.1 ? 57604 61077 ? 326 [1] N/A
MKxx55GSX MK1255GSX 24.8 72.4 52.9 17.6 74.3 [1] N/A N/A 458 [1] N/A
MK2555GSX 26.3 76.4 40.9 19.5 116.5 [1] N/A N/A 402 [1] N/A
MKxx65GSX MK1665GSX 45.9 93.8 74.6 16.8 203.6 [1] 77.3 242.6 16.7 [1] 97969 97259 [1] 518 [1] N/A
MK3265GSX 43.5 88.0 67.8 17.1 184.5 [1] N/A 88446 76586 [1] 476 [1] N/A
MKxx76GSX MK1676GSX 46.0 96.7 76.6 16.2 206.6 ? N/A N/A 514 [1] N/A
MK3276GSX 23.7 87.7 65.3 17.6 89.2 [1] N/A N/A 519 [1] N/A


Speed Tests (PS3)
Brand Series Model Linux GameOs
[hdparm -Tt] N/A
Cache read
(MB/s)		 Disk read
(MB/s)		 Link
Fujitsu MHW MHW2040BH N/A
MHZ MHZ2080BH N/A
MHZ2160BH N/A
Hitachi Travelstar 5K160 HTS541640J9SA00 N/A
Travelstar 5K250 HTS542580K9SA00 N/A
Travelstar 5K500 HTS545012B9SA00 N/A
Travelstar Z5K500 HTS545050A7E380 N/A
Seagate Momentus 5400.2 ST96812AS N/A
Momentus 5400.3 ST980811AS N/A
LD25 SATA ST920217AS N/A
ST9402115AS N/A
LD25 5400.2 ST940210AS N/A
Toshiba MKxx52GSX MK8052GSX N/A
MK1652GSX N/A
MKxx55GSX MK1255GSX N/A
MK2555GSX N/A
MKxx65GSX MK1665GSX N/A
MK3265GSX N/A
MKxx76GSX MK1676GSX N/A
MK3276GSX N/A
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